8,000 Hz Polling Rate Explained | WHY IT'S WORTH IT | Razer Viper 8khz Review
, Because nothing else matters just the 8K. Only the 8K. Just kidding the rest of the mouse was already covered in Part 1. Link in the description.. I purchased this for a few reasons., Most importantly, because I like to keep my bank account as close to zero as possible without becoming homeless.. Segundo, this is the fastest gaming mouse on the market, and I wanted to see by how much if I could tell a difference and if it was worth upgrading for this alone., So lets get nerdy.. If you are here strictly to see, if I think 8000 Hz is noticeable, Then yes for sure., Do I think it is worth it That depends on a lot of factors.? Do I think you should upgrade strictly for the 8000 Hz? Not yet because its not fully supported in all games. To find out why or more keep watching., Especially because I need that watch time. So the YouTube algorithm can see me as one of its favorite children. The best way that you can improve your game isnt by buying the best and most expensive peripherals., But instead by focusing on different aspects of your game., Mainly your physical health, mental health game sense. Positioning aim and consistency. Skill comes from a sum of the parts. Not a single aspect., Keep in mind a pro player can perform at a high level, no matter the peripherals. They are using.. The only thing that changes by them using higher tier peripherals is making things easier and more consistent to perform.
It doesnt all the sudden make them capable of doing things they previously couldnt do.. So what Im saying is dont expect this mouse to all the sudden. Take you from being a zero to a hero., SO WHATS THE BIG DEAL ABOUT THIS MOUSE.. Why IS IT COOLER THAN ITS PEERS? Why IS IT THE FASTEST MOUSE ON THE MARKET? This mouse comes with Razers Hyperpolling Technology., Which requires an upgraded high speed, USB microcontroller, to allow for a true 8000 Hz polling rate.. If you thought I was just speaking a different language, its all good, because that sentence wasnt for you., But this next one is. Polling rate – is how often a product reports its position to a computer.. Most gaming mice are set to 1000 Hz., Which means the mouse. Will update its position 1000 times over a second or in other words once every millisecond. Which used to blow our freaking minds because it was so fast.. But now this mouse has taken what we all have come accustomed to for the past 15 years and shot it right to hell., Because it was too cool to hang out with the other 1000 Hz mice and decided to become 8 times faster by updating its location. 8000 times a second or once every 0.125, ms. Which is like whoa and why it has been crowned the fastest mouse on the market. As without taking anything else into account. It is at least 8X faster than any other main stream mouse currently on the market.
, Much wow, Muito bom, quantos. 79.99 Isto é, quantos. Once we also incorporate the faster optical switches and superior sensor tech. It only further separates that lead. As those two aspects already made it faster than most other products.. I can see that Ive got your nerd muscles itching so Ill satisfy them by explaining this a bit further.. It also comes with Razers, 2nd generation optical switches.. The keyword here being optical and switches., Meaning it uses infrared light to actuate and has zero debounce delay., Which translates to it being actuated instantly preventing a bottleneck from occurring like it would with mechanical switches which do require a debounce delay.. The second aspect is: it uses the Focus sensor., Which is the most accurate sensor on the market with 99.6 accuracy and comes with something called motion: sync which syncs the exact interval, your PC refreshes with the mouse to give you the most up to date. Positioning., If you didnt, have a brilliant sensor that could keep up with the polling rate, then this would all be for naught., As all three of these aspects must work together to reduce the overall peripheral latency. To give you the ability to be ultra precise and crush noobs., Or at least that is how its supposed to work theoretically., WHAT THE PROS AND OTHERS ARE SAYING Moving into the subjective.. Can I tell a difference between 8000 Hz and 1000 Hz. Absolutely.. So can my mom. And she doesnt even know what a video game is.
The easiest way to explain what it feels like is when you turn your DPI up on your mouse, it feels ultra, responsive and smooth because its so fast., But the issue is that you Have no control. 8000 Hz gives you that same ultra, responsive and smooth feeling, but you retain all control.. Actually you have more control. Another way of putting it is. It feels like there is less latency and feels less sluggish., Because it is. Wow Tommy. What a great explanation. You just have such a way with words. Segwaying to the next point. This mouse has been in beta testing for some time. As per Razer Right on Reddit, who is part of their research and development department reports, most pros who have tried it. Don’T want to go back. Check the link for that Reddit post.. So since we all know that, if a pro uses it claims its better, then it must be true and we all must jump on the bandwagon. OBJECTIVELY SHOWING HOW THIS IS SUPERIOR. If youre a rational human being, you may need a bit more convincing.. So lets look more scientifically at it., Which brings us to a video from Linus Tech. dicas. Link is in the description., But to summarize the video., They took a high speed camera on a 360 Hz display with an 8k polling rate mouse that was in beta and compared it to one at 1000 Hz. The downfall of this mouse. Is it used mechanical switches which we already covered, would likely be a bottleneck compared to optical due to having a debounce delay.
, But they werent testing click latency, so its not an issue.. It also was using the PixArt PMW3360 sensor, which is a lot less accurate than the Focus Last. It was still in beta., So results should be even better with this mouse., But what they found is that the max error rate for a 360 no scope at 1000 Hz was 19.2 pixels., Meaning that, after repeat tests using a machine to ensure the exact same movement, Occurred, the cursor could be off by up to 19.2 pixéis. em 8000 Hz. It could be off by 2.4 pixels., So massive improvement.. They then also tested for something that was a bit more practical by moving the mouse 20 cm in a second. em 1000 Hz. It came to 6.3 pixels vs 8000 Hz at 3, pixéis. Ou 1.77 mm vs 0.885 milímetros, which literally can be the difference between a hit or a miss.. I constantly find myself missing by very small margins, which begs the question: is that? Because my aim sucks or because my mouse stuttered Youre welcome for being able to now use that as an excuse., I didnt miss that shot. My mouse stuttered, I swear to me mum, So the next part of this video was seeing why there was a difference.. The reason why is because of stuttstuttstuttering., Which was easily seen at 1000, 2000 e 4000 Hz.? We also still have stuttering at 8000 Hz, but it is far less noticeable.. But where does this stutter come from To very briefly, explain: Este.
Your monitor, refreshes, once every X number of seconds., The information you are seeing from your mouse is translated at the same time as the monitor refresh. em 1000 Hz, you have less data, which means you Can be taking it from the start or the end, causing a stutter to occur. em 8000 Hz, since you have more data, those timings are shortened dramatically, allowing the data to be off by smaller amounts and therefore making you hit more shots, because there is less stuttering.. The higher the monitor can register 360 Hz being the best 60 Hz being the worst and the higher the frames you have, the faster, the refresh rate is, which means the lower latency. You will have and the more up to date, positioning of your mouse youll have.. Então, who knew that a reason you could be missing? A bunch of shots could be due to latency and minor stutters that are happening at critical times. As those reduce through a sum of all the parts. Peripheral, latency polling rate, monitor refresh rate frames, etc. youll. Be more accurate and therefore hit more of your shots. And all of this lines up perfectly with my subjective findings. Of me missing, less shots, it feeling more responsive and less sluggish and having to correct less often because my cursor was already in the correct spot.. So now we have proven that both subjectively and objectively, this is faster. Can it benefit everyone? The answer is yes.
, But by how much will depend on 1., Your hardware, com 360 Hz and similar frames, being the easiest to notice and seeing the most benefit. E 2.? Your skill., If you totally suck youll, probably see an improvement just because the mouse is helping you a bunch.. If you are excellent, you will also benefit because you arent succumbing to stutter shots.. If you are average, like most things in life, youll probably only notice a small improvement. 3.. It will also depend on how perceptive you are., As some may or may not notice it at all.. But even if you arent mentally aware of it, youll still see an improvement in your gaming.. But WHAT IF YOU DONT, HAVE A 240 Ou 360 HZ DISPLAY? Do YOU STILL SEE A BENEFIT AT 60 Ou 144 HZ? I dont own a 240 Hz display or a 360 Hz display., Nor do I own a high speed camera and all the fancy stuff that Linus Tech Tips has.. So objective testing is out the window and we are going back into subjective territory.. But with the knowledge we have obtained from above, the answer is yes, you will still benefit.. It just wont be as much as someone who has a high refresh monitor., But I wanted to do a bit more testing anyways to see how much of a benefit you could still see.. I tested the following on my Asus PG279Q, which goes up to 165 Hz.. I set my frames to 141 e 60 and did two different tests.
. The first was to try and eliminate placebo effect and see if I could tell a difference between 8K and 1K in a blind test.. So I took the Viper at 8000 Hz and plugged in my Viper Ultimate at 1000 Hz and covered them up, so I didnt know which was which.. I then played some games and out of 10 tries, I guessed correctly 9 vezes. Mostly. What I could tell is a lack of sluggishness with the 8k, which led to an increased amount of accuracy.. Além disso, if I was outlining an object at 8K, it almost appeared to stick to it being ultra precise., But with the 1K I could feel the stutter where it would be accurate, but then it would stutter and Id be off a bit.. Segundo, I did the same thing as above, but instead of being at 141 Quadros, I was at 60. Out of 10 tries, I guessed correctly 5 times., So I dont think its worth it if you are still on a 60 Hz monitor. As its a massive bottle. Neck., But I do still see a very slight improvement., So my takeaway is that as long as you have a 120 Hz or higher monitor, you will see a difference depending on the things I mentioned above., Even if you arent playing games. I found that me just moving around on the windows. Desktop was a lot smoother responsive and I was clicking things with more accuracy which led to things just feeling premium.
, Especially with photoshop or any work where high mouse precision is needed, as things took less time because it was easier., It was actually so noticeable that I Actually missed it a lot when I went back down to 1000 Hz., But WAIT we still arent done. SUPPORTED GAMES.. The last thing I wanted to do is test a bunch of games to see which ones it worked for.. Infelizmente, I found that most games did not support 8000 Hz., The ones that didnt support it would do one of two things. The cursor would either skip like crazy. Or two. My frames would drop into oblivion. Most games. This would resolve at 4000 Hz.. So I consider that to be the sweet spot. E em 4000 Hz, I still notice the same improvements as at 8k, just at a lesser degree.. The games that I tested that supported 8000 Hz without any issues were Escape From Tarkov and Red Dead Redemption 2. Grand Theft, Automático 5, worked at 8k as long as you had the Raw Aim. Setting on. CSGO arguably worked because the frames were so high. Youd lose about 60 deles, and then it would stabilize., But to avoid this youd need to drop it to 4000. Hz. Kovvaacs was a bit strange as it would drop frames and then stabilize at 8k. Aim. Labs, Apex, Legends and Cyberpunk 2077 worked at 4k.. I didnt try any other games, as those were the only ones installed on my machine, and I was too lazy to install others.
Última. I noticed my CPU usage went up significantly at 8000 Hz.. So if you are already pushing the limit on your CPU, this may take it over the ledge. Em geral. Com base nesses resultados, it looks like a mass majority of games will support 4000 Hz. With only a select few working at 8000 Hz., So youll need to decide if you want to just leave the mouse at 4000 Hz or deal with adjusting it per game. Through Razer Synapse, you can put the Hz to a specific setting once a game or program launches, so that is nice, but can be cumbersome upon first setup., Since this could be hardware dependent Im currently using a Ryzen 3800X with an RTX 2070 com 32 GB of DDR4 Ram at 3200 MHz with an Aorus Elite, x570 motherboard, Samsung, 850 EVO SSD and Asus PG279Q monitor tried with G sync on and off. CONCLUSION Whew. That was a long video.. If you made it to this part, leave a comment saying Superman because youre a true MVP and I deeply appreciate the support. para mim. o 8000 Hz makes a big difference., But it isnt without its challenges, since it doesnt work on every game yet.. So there is some tinkering that will need to be done for a while that may deter some users. Youre, also paying a premium tax for it.. Última, depending on your gear skill and perception, you may not even consciously notice it. So for most users, I DO NOT recommend buying this mouse strictly for 8K.
. The rest of the market will be catching up with this, so there is no need to rush it.. Contudo, if you are in the market for a new mouse, I ABSOLUTELY recommend it., As the Razer Viper has been upgraded to support top of the line specs in every single regard.. You cant find something more premium on the spec side.. Its price point reflects that. When it comes to the size, shape and weight its incredibly competitive., Especially for clawfingertip users.. If you use palm grip, its not recommended due to not having a hump it being short and being a medium sized mouse., The gen 2 optical switches are greatly improved from Gen 1, but not quite as good as the best mechanical switches, but are getting super close.. The sensor is the best on the market., The cord itself isnt, the best so youll want to use a bungee., The skates arent bad, but some users may want to buy third party.. Então, from a premium gaming mouse point of view, it checks ALL the boxes. Which finally leaves us with which do you prefer Wired with 8000 Hz or Wireless with 1000. Para mim, this has now become my new main.. I would love to see a wireless mouse that works at 1000, 2000 Hz wireless and then you can plug it in to get 8000 Hz., Perhaps thats the future, and I would love to try it., Im curious, which would you chose. Let me know in the comment section below.
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