MSI GE75 Review – Crazy Gaming Power ??
Inside. Ive basically got the top end configuration with 8 core i9 processor and more interestingly Nvidia RTX 2080 Super graphics, which runs up to 150 watts. Definitely no Max Q here. Theres 16gb of memory in dual channel plenty of storage and the fastest screen Ive ever tested.. The lid is a matte black metal. The interior is the same while the bottom panel is plastic.. It felt ok in terms of build quality, better than say the more plasticy GP75, but not as good as the GS66, and there are no sharp corners or edges. MSI lists the weight as 2.66kg mine was close to this, then, with the 280w power brick and cables For charging were above 3.7kg, but the lower spec models have smaller 230w bricks.. The GE75 is on the thicker side, its not huge or anything, but presumably those powerful specs inside need room for cooling.. The screen bezels are about 8.5mm on the sides, but there is a larger chin down below.. The 17.3 1080p screen is available in 144Hz, 240Hz or 300Hz options.. Unfortunately, theres no G, Sync and optimus cannot be disabled. By default. The MSI Dragon Center software has display OverDrive, enabled, with this on, I measured a 3.2ms grey to grey response time, but this did introduce a little overshoot. With OverDrive off the response. Time increases to 6.8ms and the overshoot is gone, its good. That youve got options most other laptops. Dont, give you a choice.. This is the fastest response time Ive ever tested in any laptop since buying the tools needed to measure this.
Ive tested the screen with the Spyder 5 and got 95 of sRGB 73 of NTSC 77 of AdobeRGB and 76 of DCI P3. At 100 brightness. I measured the panel at 297 nits in the center, with an 8501 contrast ratio, so fair results for a gaming panel.. There was some bleed in my unit, but this will vary between laptops and panels.. There was a bit of movement when intentionally flexing the screen, but it felt quite solid due to the metal exterior.. The hinges are out towards the corners and seem sturdy, but they dont appear to be using the new, stronger design like the GS66. Theres, more weight towards the back, which prevents one finger opening. But it felt fine sitting on my lap. Theres, more flex than Id like when intentionally pushing down on the keyboard area, but I never noticed this during normal use., Despite the screen, bezels being quite thin. Msi still has the 720p camera above the screen in the center. No Windows, hello, support, though.. This is what the camera and microphone look and sound like on the MSI GE75 heres. What it sounds like to type on the keyboard – and this is what it sounds like if we set the fan to max speed. So you can still hear me: ok over the fan., The steelseries keyboard seems the same as many others from MSI its got per key RGB backlighting, which illuminates all keys and secondary key functions., Theres 4 levels of key brightness, or you can turn it off.
. I liked typing with the keyboard. I had no issues with it, but some may not like the smaller right shift. Key. Heres how it sounds to use to give you an idea of what to expect. The power button is above the keyboard on the right, as well as shortcuts to boost fan, speed or change the keyboard lighting effect, but these can be done through software too.. The precision touchpad does not click down, however. Its got physically separate, left and right click buttons below.. I thought it worked well, but it felt a little small for a 17 machine. I suppose, as the dedicated buttons use up space compared to one without., Fingerprints show up easily on the matte black interior and lid, but as a smooth surface, theyre easy enough to clean with a microfiber cloth. On the left from the back theres, a kensington lock slot Air exhaust vent, gigabit ethernet, HDMI 2.0 and mini DisplayPort outputs, USB 3.2 Gen2 Type, A port, USB 3.2 Gen2 Type C port, no thunderbolt and 3.5mm headphone and mic jacks. On the right from the front. Theres an SD card slot, two USB 3.2 Gen1 Type A ports. Another air exhaust and the power input at the back and out of the way. When powered on the three Type: A ports all light up red – and there are some customizations available through software. Isnt – that just the ultimate flex Hey check out my ports. They light up.
Gamer red., I confirmed that both the HDMI and mini DisplayPort outputs were connected directly to the Nvidia graphics. The Type C port does not have display output.. The back has a couple of air exhaust vents towards the corners with Raider text in the center, while the front just has some status LEDs in the middle and space for getting your finger in to open the lid. Theres an MSI logo in the center of the Lid towards the top it gets lit up from the screens backlight, so it cannot be controlled. Underneath there are some air vents directly above the fans at the back. Otherwise there are some randomly placed ones near the middle to front.. Getting inside involves taking out 13 phillips head screws and the 2 at the back corners are shorter than the rest.. I found it a little difficult to remove the panel, but once inside weve got the 2.5 drive bay on the left WiFi 6 card. Next. To that then, to the right two memory slots and two PCIe M.2 slots. Ill, also note that MSI are using slower, DDR4 2666 memory here, despite Intel 10th gen, now supporting faster 2933. So you could potentially get a little speed boost by upgrading or tweaking speeds in BIOS., The two 3 watt speakers sound pretty good for an MSI laptop well above average and theres some bass from the two 3 watt subwoofers.. The volume is loud enough at maximum, but the latencymon results could have been better.
. This top end, GE75 is powered by a 6 cell 65Wh battery. However, the lower spec options have a smaller 51Wh battery, so expect different results. There. Ive tested with the screen brightness at 50 background apps, disabled and keyboard lighting off.. The results were actually a bit better than I expected. Given the hardware inside exactly 5 hours in the YouTube playback test., The battery did unfortunately drain during heavy load. Despite the 280w brick, I went down to 90 during my stress testing, while plugged in over the course of a couple hours or so, and this was in spite of the best for mobility, option being checked, which is meant to keep it at 100.. Lets check out. Thermals next. The Dragon Center software lets you select between different performance modes, which, from lowest to highest, are silent, balanced and extreme. Performance. Youve got the option of overclocking the GPU in extreme performance mode. However, no overclock was applied by default.. You can also toggle coolerboost here, which sets the fan to max speed. However, there is some manual customization that can be done to CPU or GPU fan., Like some other MSI laptops. I did have a strange bug here, where, most of the time I had the options available to change the modes, but sometimes they would just vanish until I rebooted the system. Hopefully that can get fixed in an update. Theres. Also, no undervolting done out of the box and by default its disabled.
However, if you boot into the BIOS and then press this epic cheat code, youll be able to enable undervolting, as well as a ton of other options, so be careful and only change what you understand. Thermals were tested with a 21 degree Celsius. Ambient room, temperature. Idle results down. The bottom were good. Worst case. Stress tests were done with the Aida64 CPU stress test, with CPU only checked and the Heaven benchmark at max settings. At the same time and gaming was tested with Watch Dogs 2.. There was thermal throttling on both CPU and GPU, whether gaming or under stress test in silent mode, but thats fair as the mode prioritizes, quieter. Fans.. Stepping up to balanced mode lowers the temperatures a bit as the fans increase. However, the GPU was still reporting, as thermal throttling. Any time were on 86 degrees, and although this is in many tests, I feel its less of an issue due to the high power levels were hitting, which still equals great performance.. Using a cooling pad seemed to lower the temperatures the most and, at this point were under 90 degrees, which seems decent given the specs.. These are the clock speeds in the same tests., The GPU didnt change, much outside of silent mode, and the CPU was hitting similar speeds in balanced and extreme at stock due to power limitations.. This is why undervolting offered a boost to processor performance were able to do more with the power available and as thermals werent a limit to the CPU here.
Although the cooling pad lowered temperatures, it doesnt do much in the way of performance gains.. When we look at the power limits, the CPU was maxed out at 45 watts in balanced or extreme modes. No matter what – and this was despite software reporting PL1 as 200 watts, so I wasnt able to boost it.. It may be possible to change in MSIs advanced BIOS, as there are a lot of other options there. But honestly, given the temperatures, theyve clearly done this to prioritize GPU power, as this will likely help out more in games, especially with higher settings.. When we instead look at CPU only performance with the GPU, now idle, balanced and silent modes still cap, the processor to 45 watts. However, extreme mode now boosts this up to 68. Watts. More power does equal more heat, but we could improve this a bit with undervolting or cooling pad, and the undervolt was all that was needed to basically get us to the full 4.3GHz. All core stock turbo boost speed of the 10980HK. Given were right on the CPU power limit, though, if we wanted to try any overclocking wed have to look at boosting power levels in BIOS, first. Heres how the different modes perform in Cinebench again, no real difference with The cooling pad as the undervolt gives us most of the gains once weve got that higher 68 watt power limit.. When we look at how it compares, though, while it is a fair result for an Intel, HK processor for the most part, the fact that the Ryzen 7 4800H in the RP 15 is ahead in multicore, while costing far less is impressive.
Heres. How an actual game performs with these different modes in use, so even in the lowest silent mode, were still seeing a great result, which makes sense, as we saw, the GPU power limit, is still quite high. Even in this mode. Cpu heavy games would see more of a drop though.. As for the external temperatures, where youll actually be putting your hands at idle, it was in the low 30s, pretty typical., With the stress tests going its above 50 degrees, and the middle is now getting close to hot, though WASD wasnt as bad.. It cools down a bit in balanced mode due to the higher fan speed, but the center still gets up there and extreme performance mode appears to lower it. A bit lets have a listen to how loud the fans get.. The fans were still audible at idle in silent mode and they arent much louder with the stress tests. Running. Considering the available GPU power is still quite high in silent mode. You can definitely game with decent performance without a loud system.. Balanced was basically the same as extreme mode with coolerboost enabled so maxed out, at least in the worst case, stress tests. Im testing. Now lets check out how well this RTX 2080 Super performs in games and compare it with some other laptops. In Battlefield. 5 Ive got the GE75 highlighted in red. Its giving one of the best results Ive seen in this game, only behind the more powerful 200 watt 2080 in the thicker GT76.
Just above it, though, the 1 low was a bit lower compared to some of the others. Just below., These are the results from Far Cry 5 with ultra settings in the built in benchmark.. The GE75 is down a little this time. I have found processor power to matter more in this test compared to GPU, so that may be why its likely that 45 watt CPU cap. In Shadow of the Tomb Raider the GE75, is back near the top, though only a few frames ahead of other options that Are a fair bit thinner such as MSIs GS66 and the GT76s lead is a bit further in this GPU heavy test. Ive also tested the GE75 in 20 different games at all setting levels. You can check the card in the top right or link in the description for more benchmarks. Now for the benchmarking tools, Ive tested, Heaven Valley and Superposition from Unigine, as well as Firestrike Timespy and Port Royal from 3DMark just pause. The video, if you want a detailed look at these results. Ive, used Adobe Premiere to export one of my laptop review videos at 4K and the GE75 was doing the best out of all laptops tested since the 14.2 update, which added NVENC, support. Ive also tested Premiere. But with the Puget systems benchmark, which also accounts for things like live playback rather than just export times and again, the GE75 was the new chart. Topper., The results were a bit lower in photoshop, which I suspect may be due to the lower CPU power limit.
When the GPU is active, but the score is still up there.. The GE75 was back on top in Davinci Resolve, which makes sense, as this seems to be a more GPU heavy test., Ive also tested SPECviewperf, which tests out various professional 3D workloads. Ive used the OpenVR benchmark to test the HTC Vive Cosmos Elite and the GE75 was Doing the best here too, which makes sense as its got the most powerful GPU Ive ever had since adding the VR test. Ive used Crystal Disk Mark to test the storage.. The 512GB NVMe M.2 SSD was ok but nothing impressive. The 1TB 7200rpm spinning rust was going about as expected, and the SD card slot was on the slower side, but still preferable to not having it at all, and the card sits most of the way into the machine. For updated prices check the links in the description. As prices will change over time. At the time of recording in the US, the GE75, with similar specs to what Ive tested is 3000 USD, but there are of course, lower specced options for less. Here in Australia. Well, the max spec doesnt come cheap were looking at 5800 AUD for the config Ive tested., Alright, with everything tested lets conclude by summarising the good and bad aspects of MSIs GE75 gaming laptop to help you decide if its worthwhile. The thing that obviously stands out, the Most is the raw performance on offer from the RTX 2080 Super.
MSI have kicked Max Q to the curb and are allowing this thing to run up to 150 watts in GPU heavy loads which results in excellent performance in both games and other applications.. Given the i9 and 2080 Super inside, I wasnt disappointed by the temperatures. With an actual game running at stock, its below 90 degrees, and it was possible to get under this even with worst case stress tests going with some tweaks.. This is because MSI cap, the CPU power limit in such tests to 45 watts, but if youre sticking to games at max settings and utilizing the GPU that shouldnt matter too much and outside of games, the CPU power level does boost higher.. The build quality was ok. Definitely some flex present, despite the metal exterior keyboard, was good, touchpad, alright battery life. Surprisingly, not terrible. Given the specs, though there was some drain over time and the screen was impressive too, with a 3.2ms response. Time.. That said, the GE75 could have gotten more out of the high 300Hz refresh rate screen if MSI allowed the user the option of disabling Optimus, like they do in the GS66, as this would have given a speed boost and also maybe the option of G Sync.. I think this is the main thing Im not happy with at the price point: weve got the good, specs and screen. Now we just need this extra boost.. Oh and DDR4 2933 memory would have been preferable. It doesnt give that much of an extra boost, but again for this price, given the other top end, specs weve got, it just seems like its missing.
. The software bug preventing changing performance modes was a bit annoying, but at least that could be fixed with an update.. The price is definitely up there, but if youre after an epic gaming experience, then the GE75 appears to deliver without being as huge as other options like say: MSIs, GT76 Titan or Alienware 51m.. Let me know what you thought about MSIs GE75 gaming laptop down in the comments and, if youre new to the channel get subscribed for future laptop reviews and tech.