Abril 2020 Q&A – ¿Dónde están Ryzen de alta gama 4000 ordenadores portátiles? Intel 10a generación o Ryzen 4000 para juegos?
Así que la primera pregunta está aumentando 4000 laptop won't be released until mid August or July or maybe June. ¿Debo esperarlo o comprar i7 9th gen, o tal vez i7 10 758 portátil serie al final? It comes down to whether or not you need something right now all you're happy to wait and see what comes along. Al mismo tiempo, you don't want to fall into the trap of constantly waiting, there's, siempre va a ser algo que a la vuelta de la esquina. So if you need something now I'd say by now, información disponible y qué productos conoce en su país que puede permitirse que, hacer lo que necesita. De lo contrario, Creo que muchos de los nuevos portátiles Intel como. Tipo de período de mayo, but yeah it depends on region or country you're in you, don't actually specify here but yeah. En el extremo, se trata de si quieres o no algo ahora o quieres esperar y ver qué pasa en términos de rendimiento de juego como aumento inverso Intel. I haven't had a chance to test that failing myself, but from what I've seen it doesn't actually look like it's going to be too big of a difference outside of gaming, aunque parece pasa 4000 es un ganador bastante claro en todo lo que se trata de, Al igual que el rendimiento multinúcleo e incluso de un solo núcleo, así que sí, también depende de para qué quieres usarlo y si quieres o no que el peso revele tu cara.
Por favor,. La siguiente pregunta es publicar portátil vale la pena. ¿Con qué frecuencia debo cambiar la pasta térmica en mi portátil, so don't actually have a good answer to that, pero lo que yo personalmente haría es, Yo sólo controlaría las temperaturas y con el tiempo ver si eso cambia, así que tal vez hasta seis meses, doce meses, if I'm, Empezando a ver temperaturas significativamente altas, entonces podría empezar a pensar que probablemente debería saber, cambiar la pasta, pero aparte de eso depende de la calidad de la pasta. You know if you used a terrible paste and it's dried up fast, entonces es posible que tenga que reemplazarlo antes que una pasta de mayor calidad. Así que definitivamente hay variables, pero al final sólo miraría las térmicas que sus máquinas realmente producen, y yo decido en base a eso, si quería o no cambiarlo o no. Why aren't we seeing any Nvidia Super Max P, portátiles pálidos? All we got is max few models so far so I'm, no está seguro de si se trata de una pregunta sobre emparejado con Intel o Rison. I guess at the moment there isn't really any that now that I think about it. So yeah good point don't, really not from what I've seen a lot of companies like is Seuss and MSI. I think they're targeting Mae. Usted sabe que podría cambiar los problemas de virus y todo eso, pero uh .sí no está realmente seguro de dónde están. I don't currently have any everything.
I'Ve got so far has been max q, so I don't actually know where they are. Esperemos que aparecen pronto, porque realmente quiero compararlos y ver lo mucho que es realmente súper en comparación con la última generación. ¿Cuándo podemos esperar que Alan supere los cinco, I review and do you think it's going to be a big performance boost compared to the Wi Fi 40? Bien, we'll. Never have already announced that they're bringing up those new models, incluyendo el 5i en mayo, así que, I'm. Waiting for that at the moment I haven't been in contact with them and I've asked if I could get a model in advance to do the review and you know, publicar el día de la revisión. Un tipo de cosa, but unfortunately it doesn't seem like that's going to be possible. Así que lo que tengo que esperar es hasta que empiecen a enviar esos portátiles de la fábrica a los clientes. I think that's as soon as I mean as soon as they're, going to be able to get one to send to me if that doesn't happen, I'll probably just end up buying them myself. I mean I've done that with the L 340, la Y 540, la Y 530 y la Y 7000 Me refiero a un hecho, es lo que los ordenadores portátiles son sólo baratos en mi región y muchos de ustedes quieren verlos. So if they're not going to send them to me and probably just going to buy them anyway, en cuanto a un gran aumento del rendimiento, mi suposición probablemente no quiero decir que depende sobre todo de los cambios con la GPU.
Así que sabes que hay todas esas cosas que Nvidia dijo, como dinámica, Estalla, más poder, memoria eficiente, ese tipo de cosas, por lo que probablemente añadirá alguna mejora. But at the same time I don't think, como el lado Intel de las cosas es realmente gon na oferta. Como gran cambio en comparación con la novena generación, CPUs haven't really tested that out failure, but I don't think it's gon na be you know, como cualquier cosa demasiado loco allí en ese lado de las cosas al menos, hay, por supuesto,, características como optimista avanzado. That'S meant to be in the 5. I I don't think that will affect performance because most of the Lenovo gaming laptops select the five Wi Fi 40, o por qué 740? Ya te dan la opción de desactivar Optimus, lo que te da el mismo impulso de velocidad. I mean advanced Optimus is obviously taking things to the next level and it's a much nicer feature but yeah. I don't expect that to really give it a performance boost how the upcoming laptops more worth. A continuación, construir el PC con el mismo presupuesto, así que portátil versus PC. I think it's always pretty much going to come down to whether or not you need portability or you don't. Si necesita portabilidad, then go laptop if you don't need portability. Bien, Probablemente miro a comprar un PC en general en general, no siempre, but you can get more performance per dollar it's, no siempre el caso, pero definitivamente hay otros factores similares en este.
Pero para mí se trata de si o cualquier portabilidad o no en cuanto a si los próximos ordenadores portátiles son más vale la pena. I don't think there's that big of a jump compared to like last gen, especialmente en el lado de Intel, parece bastante pequeño. En el lado de AMD, hay un salto mucho más grande de 3000 serie para 4000 Serie, pero al mismo tiempo, como usted sabe, AMD en el escritorio está haciendo bastante bien. Allí se puede llegar a la ' 50 X con 16 Llamadas. Así que usted sabe exactamente Limitado, so I don't think it really is. Creo que las cosas nuevas lo cambia tanto como esas cosas un 15 y un 17 cuándo y por qué el sistema se bloquea al bajar la configuración de los juegos exigentes serie HS. So from what I've seen a lot of retailers here in Australia are gon na start selling the a 15 y un 17 el 1 de mayo, Creo que era ahora. Estaba planeando comprar uno, pero Tim de Hardware. Unboxed realmente importó uno de los EE.UU. y ha estado revisando que en este momento y en realidad ha sido lo suficientemente agradable como para enviarme eso a mí. I haven't sent it yet because he's still testing it, but once he's done with it, Debería ser capaz de conseguirlo, y debería ser capaz de hacer mi revisión completa y puntos de referencia de juego y pruebas térmicas todo ese tipo de cosas. So just waiting for that to get sent from him as for the system crush I'm, not sure what exactly that's referring to is that, como un problema común con un 15? Si lo experimenté durante mis pruebas, I'll definitely point it out, but I haven't heard of that.
Hasta ahora yo mismo, Estaba pensando si Rison 4000 es una CPU que puede manejar el uso pesado durante mucho tiempo. En otras palabras, es una CPU que puedo contar con los próximos cinco años? Cinco años es mucho tiempo y realmente odio el futuro término de prueba, but it depends what you're doing like if you, if it's multi core performance factors, las opciones crecientes, están ofreciendo un excelente rendimiento por el dinero de hoy. So you know when comparing to what's available up there, podría gastar mucho más dinero para obtener un sistema Intel comparable con hasta ocho núcleos o puede gastar menos para obtener como un 4900 HS que sabrá, perform better I'll use less power. Todas las cosas que señalé en mi 1400 Verso del SA, Diez, Ocho, Siete, Cinco, ocho comparación, video, así que, cualquiera de los que vayas a, I don't think there's going to be that big of a difference one way or the other. Ya sabes años a partir de ahora. Probablemente depende más de cuánto quieras gastar hoy, así que creo que podría gastar menos en un risin 4000 portátil hoy, compared to a more expensive Intel system and I'd probably expect them to like lost similar amount in terms of longevity, al menos en términos de la CPU, porque los portátiles basados en Intel están emparejados actualmente con GPU más potentes, so it depends what you're doing like if you're gaming, es posible que desee que la GPU más potente.
Así que es posible que desee gastar más dinero para obtener el sistema Intel. Todo lo que quieras esperar hasta el presente 4000 está disponible con GPU más potentes siempre que sea ba, it's really hard to predict this sort of stuff, pero yo diría que, como un ocho núcleo, Isin 4000 Serie, CPU probablemente tiene una muy buena oportunidad de que sabes conseguir que a través de cinco años, ¿cuándo viene bien la segunda oleada de portátiles Intel y AMD, no demasiado seguro, but I have heard that a lot of companies like a seuss and Lenovo they're, trayendo sus modelos en mayo con tanta suerte alrededor de. Then I haven't heard too much about new AMD laptops. Creo que el nuevo msi – Bravo 15, con Rison 4000 y posiblemente 5600 M – podría estar saliendo. Late May there's supposed to be the Dell g5 special edition, que estaba destinado a salir en abril, but it's almost the end of April now, and I haven't heard any updates on that. Dijeron que en el CES en enero, antes de que ocurriera todo el problema del virus, so I can only assume that's been delayed, but haven't heard anything there yet, pero sí. I think I think the sort of May time frame is when we're supposed to see a lot more stuff, pero al mismo tiempo, también parece, como las cosas están constantemente goteando a lo largo de los meses y todo tipo de cosas se han interrumpido debido a esos problemas de virus, como mencioné tan probablemente sólo tiene que esperar y ver cuánto de un aumento de rendimiento ¿crees que podemos esperar de Gd Dr. 6, lpg d, Dr. 6 transición en un ordenador portátil por lo que no está realmente seguro de lo que lpddr3 lpg d dr 6, es.
Lo he buscado y casi no había resultados en google, so I'm, not sure if that's something that's new or announced or haven't heard of it but I'm going to assume you're talking about the low powered memory that Nvidia mentioned they're using in their current Graphics for laptops, así que básicamente lo que dijeron es que si usted tiene un qué max q GPU y aproximadamente 20 vatios de que va a ir a la memoria. Así que si usted tiene memoria de palet inferior, then you've got more power available within your power budget to send to the GPU core and that's, va a darle más rendimiento en los juegos. Por lo tanto, Básicamente, memoria más eficiente equivale a un mejor rendimiento al tener más potencia para empujar hacia el núcleo de la GPU. Now they didn't actually say how much of that power is going to go to the GPU course. They didn't say what sort of improvements the memory is giving them. Así que tenemos que esperar y ver y probar que nosotros mismos, pero al mismo tiempo, it's going to be hard to test for, because they've made other improvements with the new graphics as well, que podría cambiar ligeramente cosas como el impulso dinámico. Quiero decir, supongo que podemos desactivar esa función, pero también todas estas nuevas opciones de gráficos para portátiles de vídeo se están lanzando al mismo tiempo que hasta el 10, gen, so we're, probablemente no va a conseguir como una mascota portátil de 9a generación con los nuevos gráficos Nvidia.
It'S only going to be new Nvidia graphics with Intel 10th gen and although the difference between 9th gen and 10th gen is probably pretty small, que sigue siendo una diferencia. That'S going to come into play when we try to test and compare like old last gen, Decir: 2060 versó un nuevo 2060 with the more efficient memory so I'm interested to try it out. Pero sí sólo tiene que conseguir algunos ordenadores portátiles y espero que pueda hacer una comparación justa. Hey Jared gran fan gracias! ¿Está bien preguntar qué inspiración para hacer videos de alta calidad? Bien? I'M? Glad you think the high quality honestly I'm? No estoy exactamente seguro. Supongo que siempre quise hacer como críticas de tecnología que en realidad hice como un sitio web como hace más de diez años. Nunca hice nada con él como si casi sólo registrara el dominio y pensé que he y se llamaría la revisión de cosas de tecnología. Esto fue como mucho tiempo antes de que sepas que había como canales populares de YouTube haciéndolo. I just thought it'd be interesting, como vi todos los sitios web por ahí haciéndolo, pero nunca me metí en eso y sí. Creo que sí. Básicamente, what happened is one night I just couldn't sleep and I was just thinking about it and I end up getting out of bed like 3 a. m.. donde acabo de hacer el nombre del canal y todas esas cosas y lo puso en marcha y sí desde entonces, Estar trabajando en ello, it's been good fun be out.
I only I've always wanted to do it pretty much and YouTube has just been a really good way to pretty much do what I wanted to do a long time ago with the website that I never ended up getting running and yet to be known. Good. Desde 4800 H verso, 30 700 X portátiles, which one would you prefer and why so Todd does say because there's not that many of either at the moment. Realista, Me gusta la idea de un 3700 X laptop more mainly because it's the m4 socket. Para poder poner en ti sabes, potencialmente un '00 – tal vez un ' 50 X, if there's enough power for it. Tal vez tenga que ejecutarlo en modo Eco, pero aún así podría ser una buena opción si necesita el rendimiento multinúcleo. Así que esa sería probablemente mi preferencia sólo desde una perspectiva de capacidad de actualización. Y si el portátil OAM es compatible, como las actualizaciones del BIOS en el futuro. Por ejemplo,, la próxima generación de chips de escritorio Rison. There'S the potential for upgrading there I mean it's, a bit of an unknown could be a risk because you have no idea of whoever's making. El portátil va a ofrecer ese tipo de apoyo en la pista, but yeah that'd be what I would be leaning towards. Personalmente, nuestros portátiles inteligentes basados, confiable en mi experiencia sí, I haven't had any problems with them. El primer portátil que cubrí en el canal fue el P 650 re, Creo, y vi que estaba usando eso en mi último trabajo antes de entrar en YouTube a tiempo completo y había estado usando esa cosa durante tres años y medio, como todos los días en la oficina, así que ocho horas al día, I didn't turn it off.
Así que siempre estaba en mi escritorio en la oficina corriendo 247. Lo tomé como viajes internacionales, banged it up it's. Se mantuvo perfectamente bien después de tres años y medio. Por lo tanto, basado en mi experiencia personal, I'd say they're pretty reliable. Obviamente eso podría variar según el modelo. Obviamente, definitivamente hay que sabe duds con todo. Nada es perfecto, there's, siempre va a ser tasas de fracaso ese tipo de cosas que sí. En mi experiencia, la unidad que tenía era bastante confiable y duró muy bien duro, un 15 revisar bien, como se mencionó swainton para hardware en la caja a la barra senador. What does your personal setup look like when you're, no probar los portátiles? Bien, pretty much it's, sólo esta habitación? The only difference is this white table sitting in front of me is kind of pushed up against that wall over there that's, where I'd film most of my b roll that's, realmente más o menos lo. De lo contrario. I sit right here at my computer that's right Eddy bill. La tabla de videos en el lado aquí es por lo general un poco de un lío que por lo general pongo como usted sabe, a laptop there that I'm testing desktop might be sitting there. I'Ve got another one of these monitors just off screen anything you can see. Así que segundo, one of them got my nas over here bunch of tools and stuff over there that I regularly use for testing I don't know. Tal vez debería hacer un video de la visita a la habitación, hágamelo saber, es que vale la pena comprar RT x, 2070 con 10a generación, where you're unable to under fort or better, para obtener la novena generación en primaria, mucho más barato y temperaturas más bajas, so it's a good question.
Supongo que se trata de bien para mí que se reduciría a si los gráficos estaba diciendo o no 2070 fenomenal, because there's probably going to be a fair improvement due to that can't. Recuerda la parte superior de mi cabeza: if they're still selling non super xx 70s, Creo que podrían ser. Fue definitivamente max Q. Bien, if it's max Q, probablemente max P, así, alright let's say forget the super it's, sólo la diferencia de la CPU. Personalmente, I wouldn't care that much about under vaulting. I don't actually do it that much myself, mainly because when I'm editing, video and it's like 400 a. m.. and I've been up all night like, I really take my laptop when I'm at like CSS or Computex. That kind of thing to edit videos when it's like 400 a. m.. and I've been you know busy all day. Lo último que quiero es que mis cosas se estrellen durante una exportación, y sabes que podría afinarlo y hacerlo estable, but you know end of the day I'm, no salvarme, that much like I'm, olvidando que mucho rendimiento adicional en el lado de exportación de vídeo de las cosas, so I personally bother with it just because I prefer the stability so for me it wouldn't matter, but at the same time I don't think 10th gen is really offering. Usted sabe que mucho rendimiento adicional también hay algunos portátiles que todavía parecen tener bajo soporte de detención como el portátil msi gs70.
Puede habilitar XTU a través de la bios o simplemente en la valta a través de la bios. Así que es posible que tenga que mirar una base caso por caso, que los portátiles todavía soportan la función. Otherwise I would look at the CPU benchmarks of 9th Jennifer's temperature of what you're getting if the difference isn't all that much then yeah 9th Journal laptop. Si puedes conseguir un buen trato, que suena bastante bien para mí: puede hacer bajo tutoriales de atornillado para cada CPU? También GPU bajo videos de bóveda sería muy apreciado por nosotros, it's, muy informativo e interesante en la comunidad de portátiles. So the reason I haven't done under bolting videos in the past is, Creo que hay mejores videos disponibles, como Bob de todos los oficios, hace un muy buen trabajo en cualquier momento. Cualquiera en los comentarios me pregunte acerca de bajo bóveda. Sólo vinculo sus videos. Hace un excelente trabajo de mostrarte cómo hacerlo y explicarlo ya. I don't think there's any need to do an under vaulting tutorial for each CPU, porque el principio general es básicamente el mismo una vez que sabes lo que los ajustes hacen en X para ti o tope del acelerador. Sabes que puedes aplicar eso, regardless of if it's a 9th gen i 7 o 8o, gen, i5 or whatever it's, básicamente el mismo tipo de cosas. Así que una vez que sabes cómo hacerlo, yeah it doesn't matter and it's, not like you're gon na get a better under for an i5 or some specific laptop.
So I don't think there needs to be a guide for a specific, portátil o CPU porque varía según el chip de forma realista. Por lo tanto, incluso si tengo un i5 – and I say here's how to tune this – me 5 perfectamente y funciona muy bien para mí que podría no funcionar para usted en absoluto. El infravoluntario podría ser demasiado agresivo, o tal vez usted podría empujar el suyo más lejos, por lo que realmente varía según el hardware. Por lo tanto, en el extremo, usted necesita averiguar cómo hacerlo a un nivel básico, que de nuevo Bob hace un excelente, excelente tutorial en y una vez que sepa cómo hacer eso, sólo tienes que jugar con él. Experiment find out what's stable for you. ¿Qué tan importante es la CPU durante el juego? ¿Es cierto que la GPU puede tener un rendimiento inferior si, junto con la CPU, que es limitado en términos de poder sí? Eso es cierto. Así que si la CPU es, you know not performing well or it's way too low, el GP es demasiado alto, usted podría ser potencialmente CPU. Bottlenecked it'll depend on the game and the workload or whatever you're running but yeah. Si las CPU son demasiado débiles y la GPU es, usted sabe mucho más poderoso, usted podría potencialmente estar limitando la GPU allí. En cuanto a lo importante que es la CPU es bien juego para 1080p, I think it's actually quite important, al menos en términos de velocidad del reloj. Así que cuando hice el 5 comparación versículo i7, la diferencia era en realidad bastante menos de lo que pensé que sería.
Así que parece que muchos de los juegos, o al menos el 15 Juegos, have regularly tests don't benefit too much going from the jump from four calls to six cores, por lo que podría cambiar en el futuro o probablemente lo hará, pero sí. Así que la CPU es importante, but I don't think the core count is making too big of a difference in many titles. En el momento. Generalmente, usted sabe si usted consigue, Creo que la mayoría, I five laptops that really seem to be paired with anything above a twenty sixty but I've seen at least. Let me know if I'm wrong there, pero creo que, como una i 5 2060 probablemente está bien. I'Ve never had that combination, I've had an i 5 1660 ti and that seemed to perform fine I've only seen I sevens with like 20 70 s and above so that's. Probably why and from what I've seen you know. Eso parece mantener la GPU alimentada bastante. Bien, sin muchos problemas también es una vida más larga para tener una CPU pobre con veintiséis o seis núcleos de CPU con 20 70. I think it depends what you're doing like I just mentioned. I didn't see much difference in the games. Hoy pongo a prueba con 4 núcleos frente a seis núcleos, por lo que seis núcleos frente a ocho núcleos probablemente no va a ser realmente una gran diferencia. Pero si te gustan otras cargas de trabajo multinúcleo fuera de los juegos, entonces que ocho núcleos CPU definitivamente podría valer la pena.
De lo contrario, if it's for gaming personally, Probablemente sólo llevo la llamada de seis con el 2017 what's, su portátil de juego en general favorito, cuál se recomienda para los jugadores casuales y por qué mi garante? Te sientes como el 1000 punto de precio como 1200. ESTADOS UNIDOS. dólares es generalmente el ASA Helios 300 it's, animando muy bien fuera de la caja y sólo funciona muy bien para el dinero. De lo contrario, lenovo y40 también es bastante bueno, como mostré en mi comparación, video it's possible to get that actually outperforming the Helios slightly because the Wi Fi 40 le permite desactivar la GPU Intel I, y eso puede darle un impulso en algunos juegos por lo que cualquiera de los, sólo depende del precio en su región como en América, I'm. Bastante seguro de que el Helios es más barato, no por mucho tal vez cien dólares o señor. Creo que aquí en Australia para la memoria. El Helios es como 500 más caro que la Y 540. Así que recomendación bastante fácil aquí, al menos hoy para la Y 540, especially if you're willing to give it the GPU, overclock and CPU under vault that Helios has out of the box and then it'll be quite competitive. ¿Cuál es el mejor portátil para todo lo que la vida de la batería juega? Estudiar la edición, usted sabe personalmente, for that I'd be looking at something like electronics, Mag, 15 o tal vez gigabyte o 15. Ambos tienen baterías grandes. Conoces el buen rendimiento, todo sobre el crisco como un buen conjunto de características como la tarjeta SD Thunderbolt Mac teclado.
En el caso de las baterías grandes mag creo que dije que, pero sí, de lo contrario msi ge62 6 allá atrás, Sabes: it's got a big battery to 99.9 vatios hora, también Thunderbolt un montón de características, algunas buenas opciones por ahí en el momento, Bi, probablemente mirando a uno de esos dos primeros serás capaz de conseguir Zephyrus y 15 este año pasado estaba esperando su punto de vista, that's their gu 502 Correcto. I think that's what it is so for some reason: el GU, 502 wasn't sold in Australia, and I asked a sous for it and you know they just said it's not sold in Australia. Lo siento, Hubiera pensado que habrían. Usted sabe tal vez importado uno o tomado uno prestado del extranjero o algo, but I don't know it just seems weird, como Australia es sólo 4 de la gente que realmente vio el canal. Así que parece raro limitar. You know what they're going to send me based purely on that so yeah I don't know if the m15 is going to be sold here. I guess it'll depend on that and, if it's not sold here, entonces podría tener que tratar de preguntar un poco más difícil que la última vez y ver lo que puedo hacer. Oye. Me gustaría saber la duración de sus pruebas térmicas. I was actually thinking of doing like a blog post on this on the charrids don't tech website, or something because that aren't actually documented anywhere.
I mean I've answered this question a few times when people ask it in the comments but um here we Gary. Así es como hago mis pruebas térmicas. Básicamente, Tengo el portátil y lo envío en esta mesa blanca contra esa pared y lo dejo correr inactivo durante una hora para empezar. Then I that's what I do so I get my idle temperatures. Primero, so once it's been sitting there for an hour, I'll record the CPU and GPU temperatures, I'll film, la cubierta del teclado con la cámara térmica y, at the same time I'll also use the sound meter. I have and work out how loud it is and then once I've got the idle results. I'Ll run my stress tests, so I'll get a 264 and heav'n benchmark running at the same time, y luego en ese punto todo honestamente, por lo general me olvido de ello por como una hora como mínimo 30 minutos como yo sólo dejé que se empapase a toda temperatura. Don'T touch it at all, I'll, just like turn back over here and work on something else and forget that it's even doing that, una vez que el remojo de calor de toro ha tenido lugar, usted sabe por lo general bien dentro de 30 minutos. Tengo hardware y para abrir durante todo este tiempo. Así que hago clic en el pequeño icono del cronómetro en la información de hardware y que reinicia el temporizador y luego lo dejo ir por media hora más, so that's, uno de ellos en realidad por debajo de mi prueba y luego después de media hora.
Whatever settings I'm running and whatever fan speed, then I'll come back and I'll do the same again: uso del rollo, a thermal camera on the keyboard and the sound meter tool to get the fan volume and then I'll take the hardware info information down. Así que en ese punto, it's been 30 minutos para obtener el baño de calor completo y luego 30 minutos para obtener esos datos. Then I'll change the settings so like I might adjust the fan or apply an under volt or something and then I'll. Déjalo ir por otra mitad de vainilla. Por lo tanto, Básicamente, en cualquier momento en mi gráfico de temperatura, where I've got like a bar with the CPU and GPU that's 30 minutos de prueba. So if I've got like you know a laptop with the fans and quiet murdered, Así que si tengo como si conocieras un portátil con los fans y que es un lugar silencioso asesinado, and that I think I said five things there. So that would be two and a half hours of stress tests that's all while maintaining the ambient room temperature. Se puede ver, but I've got air conditioning put in a few months ago, so I can keep the ambient room temperature the same during all of my testing, regardless of what time of the year it is, and once the stress tests are done, I get straight into The gaming tests, so I don't like the laptop cooldown at all, so I take advantage of that full heat soak and for the gaming tests.
I only do 10 Para 15 minutes per test run and that's simply because it's a lot easier to do. The stress tests for half an hour and work on something else doing half an hour for each game is a bit infeasible and honestly, once I've done the stress, testing first and I get into the games, I don't see any difference after like 10 o 15 minutos. De todos modos, so I think that's perfectly fine and that's, basically how I do it so that takes you know a few hours for each laptop that I test like 4 o 5 horas. Easy no problem depends on how many settings I want to test all the fan options available. So generally, I try test as many as possible, so it can take the best part of most of a day to get that done. So this question is a bit confusing. I think there might be some confusion about what the overclocking is actually doing. So if you are overclocking say your 1660 TR here in this instance by a hundred megahertz and then also doing 350 Megahertz, although the software might be reporting that it's running higher, you might find that it's not actually doing that. So you'll probably be power limit rattling. The whole way, regardless of whatever clock you put in place, those clock speeds might not actually being getting hit, regardless of what the software says. So I would look at the like an actual benchmark of running a game and see if the FPS is actually up or not because boffin they're not.
I found that you know you can boost the the overclock pretty high and the software is happy to be like yeah I'm running super high, but that's not actually the case at all, so that's mainly why I don't mess around with overclocks too often like I usually Do one overclock test in my review just with like some, you know I plus one 50 megahertz on the core 300 megahertz on the memory I think it's. What I usually use so I think, can run that okay, pero sí. I haven't really played around too much with tuning it and setting different speeds in like MSI Afterburner. I don't think you're really going to be able to get the graphics running at the same on two different machines. Realista, clock speeds going to come down to quite a few variables, whether that be like the cooling and how GPU boost works or just even what game is running and where you are in that game and what's happening. I think this is a lot of factors too. So that a comparison like this would be pretty difficult to do family. What are your expected performance for risin, 5, 4600 H, and will you be reviewing villain over 5 AMD variant, as mentioned in an earlier question? Sí, I'll be getting those Lenovo's, although not actually sure, if they're sending Intel or AMD at the moment, I'll try and loss for both I mean I want all of them, whichever they don't send.
I might just have to buy the others, because it seems like a lot of people want to see those so see what I can do. That I'm also confused about one thing where some youtubers said: Legión 5 comes with gtx 660ti max, but some said there is also 2060 modelo, so that could vary by region. That'S definitely happened in the past, Dónde, like one country might go to some graphics option and the other might be lower in the press. Release I'm, pretty sure I did see RT X 2060 listed with the AMD variant, so some people were initially reporting 1650 Ti at the max. So maybe the press releases even differ by country, pero sí. I did see some screenshots showing RT X 2060 with AMD sir. It looks like that's gon na be happening, at least in some regions. As for the 4600 H performance, Sí, really not sure about that. I really want to get it and test it and find out, especially to see how it compares against, say the i7 9750 H or even the 10 750 H, lo que sea. That is great names thanks the only people we've seen from the other rise in 4000 Máquinas. You know I'm expecting probably better performance than the Intel counterparts. That just seems to be the way this generation is going. Yeah really came to see by how much that differences, and you know things like powered roll, what the differences all that compared to Intel thermals – and you know just how much performance again – Dola upcoming resin 4000 laptops I'm guessing you're, asking like what I've got coming.
He had to test other than that a 15 from Hardware boxed, as I mentioned earlier, nothing at the moment is really locked in there's. Just nothing there's not much not much on the way. I'M, not really sure why that is probably with the virus issues delaying things but yeah. Nothing is really confirmed at the moment. I think I mentioned before I might be getting the horizon. 4000 MSI. Bravo, 15 late in May, but that's still a while away. What a lot of stuff could change by then there's, those lenovo AMD laptops coming out in May, so if they don't send those, I might end up buying them myself be other than those. I don't really have much plan at the moment and that's just because no one's really reached out to be like hey we've got these new AMD laptops. We want to send you so I don't know if there's like a shortage or what the deal is. Señor. Wayne, you get the g15, I considered importing it from the US, but it was just like super expensive, so I didn't do that so yeah. I just have to wait and see what we got. When will you review and test electronics refresh with the 10th gen CPU, I hurt max 15 y Max 17 I'm excited for that. Honestly just depends if electronics want to send those over so it's, probably pretty expensive for them to ship from the u.s. Para mí. Just to review so I would understand if they didn't want to send those, but you know if they offer them up I'm, more than happy to say yes, Sir, it just depends whether or not they want to send them over.
Could you make a video explaining all AMD CPUs? You know like that capabilities, energía, consumption and other stuff, like those, please also make a comparison between AMD and Intel. Cpus I'm still new in those stuff and Intel CPU of the only thing I know making a comparison will help me understand AMD CPUs metal, so I definitely want to do a lot of comparisons. Thought I've done a lot already. Honestamente, I think I'm. You know just spamming comparisons at this point, because I don't have that many laptops to review I'm finally getting through the backlog of comparisons that I've wanted to make and with all the new hardware coming out, there's, even more comparisons to make so there's. Unlimited comparisons, por el momento, I do want to get more aim D CPUs, so I can do that, like I still haven't had any rise in 5 or Rison 7 ordenadores portátiles. Hopefully those will be coming soon and I can do comparisons there and yeah. I think would be a good idea, like once I've gotten all the Rison and CPUs to do like one video and be like you know, here's how the five performs here's the seven here's, the nine that type of stuff, so yeah I'm, definitely considered doing that once I'Ve had them all for testing. I know the toilets flush, the opposite direction down there. The fans spin backwards to yes, because they're upside down, so everything is the opposite. What is the percentage improvement? We can expect from RGB lighting on performance over 9000 Por ciento, minimum om shanthi higher end GPUs ped, with rice on CPUs, not to mention poor corner cutting in models like the G, 15 and poor panels on the a 15 highlighted by other laptop reviewers, but live all Trades and onal disowned regarding Intel options for the same price as a 15 one could buy maybe a Helios 300 which has a better screen and probably better cooling, then more expensive G 15.
What'S. Your take on how OMS are approaching rising laptops. This seemingly budget to mid range with no equivalent options at the high end, so it is pretty interesting, so I have actually heard from AMD that with Rison 4000 they're, essentially targeting high volume laptops, select the low to mid range stuff. So from that perspective, from what I understood it doesn't seem like they think there's anything funny going on in terms of like no laptops being paired with higher Nvidia graphics, which I thought that was pretty interesting. I would have thought AMD might have said something different, but that wasn't the case sounds like we might be getting those higher and laptops later and I kind of get it from these companies like. If you are a company – y ya sabes, you've made a rise in 3000 laptop that's honestly let's face it. Probably hasn't sold that well and then Rison 4000 comes along. tú, probably you know you might want to just dip your toe in a little and see what the markets like with you know, one or two laptops before going. You know full crazy, here's, our new lineup with all of these super expensive products that only you know, como 5 of the markets gon na buy so before, jumping in doing that, you probably want to test. You know the smaller or something that's, probably going to sell, see what demands like and now that I think a lot of these companies have seen this big for a risin, full thousand they're, probably going to start creating some of those higher and enthusiast products.
But it takes time, so I can kind of understand why they might you know, have started out slowly and then start ramping things up, but that makes sense to me at the same time there. It also is a bit strange or interesting that not a single company has, you know paired like say a twenty. Seventy with a 4100 H, I feel like if someone you know just have the guts to do that. Inicialmente, they would had such a unique product. That would have been basically unmatched for like value and performance for months. Así que sí, it's, Interesante, that it doesn't exist. But you know I have been looking into this and from what I've personally heard it doesn't sound like there's anything suspicious going on like in terms of you know, in video, only seeing high end GPUs can only be Intel. I mean that could something like that could be happening, but at least from what I've heard from AMD it doesn't sound like they think that's happening in the current market. Are there any portable gaming laptops that don't thermal throttle had the GX 502 and msi ge62? The GS 66 also seems to have that same problem, so my personal opinion is that a lot of people are way too sensitive when it comes to thermals the GX 502. I kind of understand that is definitely a hot machine, especially if you've had it with the 2070 that gets pretty hot. I mean that's a lot of power and a thin thin package.
I mean it's kind of expected GS. 65. I did test that might have thermal throttled before like under vaulting and boosting fan speeds GS. 66 back here definitely did thermal throttle before making tweaks honestly, I think that's, just how it's going to be. I mean you might not want to hear that, but the fact is, if a company making a laptop, has this product and there's thermal Headroom available they're, not just gon na cap it and let it run at 70 grados, they're, gon na pump, more power and get More performance make their product look, better it'll perform better in games, and you know the internals might get hotter, but as long as it's not like on file like the Dell g5 at a hundred degrees, it's – probably not going to be the end of the world. So I think a lot of people just sensitive at say 90 degrees and they think, Oh, Dios mío, I don't want to pass 80 o 70 or whatever arbitrary number they've selected. So I don't think it's that bad I mean some laptops, like gigabyte, have a 90 límite térmico de grado. I think that's, pretty fair, realistically you're, probably only going to be hitting that during heavy multi core workload like with perhaps the CPU and GPU active. So it also comes down to what you're actually running, but I think thermal throttling for the most part isn't as bad as a lot of people make it out to be, Quiero decir, Obviamente, you want to try and get more performance, pero ya sabes, Creo, that's Just how one of these a lot of the products currently are they just they run hot it's, not ideal? There are things we can do like under vaulting, although that might be.
You know getting taken away from us with temp gen that uh yeah. There are improvements that can be made, but at the same time kinda is what it is and if it doesn't thermal throttle, then it's probably going to be power limit throttling instead, so it's kind of like pick your poison, I guess so. You may be the power limit of the laptop that you're seeking is just me capped down so that it can't perform high and doesn't run caught up. Quiero decir: is that what you're? Después de la? Do you want it to perform like worse, because they visually capped it and it's not going to run as hot? I guess there are some laptops out there that have lower power limits, but yeah personally, I would just take the slightly hotter machine turn it a bit. If possible and take the better performance but that's me, if I only game no video, Edición, no Photoshop, no content creation as such, then we'll Intel i7 10gen would be a deal breaker for me. Should I consider an AMD laptop solely for gaming? Will there be any difference in gaming between AMD and Intel chip, even in the future? So I think I've kind of mentioned this. In a previous question, I haven't had the chance to fairly compare an AMD, laptop and interrupt up with the same JP. You yeah I've talked to someone who has done preliminary testing, they're testing, they're. Sorry and it sounds like surf ball.
The difference isn't, actually that much it seems like outside of gaming AMD is like way ahead, but in actual games they're. Realmente, you know neck and neck fairly, close so I'm still yet to see that myself, because I haven't had testing but yeah from what I've heard it's, not all that different, so probably come down to price differences like if there's an AMD laptop that's if it's cheaper Than an Intel option, then you know that might be good. It also depends what products there are because factors at the moment there are just more laptops available with Intel CPUs. So for gaming. En el momento, it doesn't appear that it matters that much but still keen to get in and test that for myself, all companies finally put more work into their thermals. Now that under vaulting is disabled, you know I really don't think it's gon na change. Much if anything, a lot of companies have already been resorting to all sorts of esoteric methods for quite a while. Ahora, como usted sabe, a source of started, putting components behind the back of the screen. They'Ve got the Zephyrus series which, like lifts off the bottom companies, start putting vents above the keyboard there's like the Helios 300 with the keyboard that slides off to let you know things, get cool, there's, all sorts of crazy things like that, and I think all of These things have only really been necessary since, like until 8th gen, when they added we're going from four cores to six cores so because the architectures just being the same for so long, but they keep pumping up clock speeds.
The only way to hit those speeds is with more power and without any efficiency improvements. We'Re gon na get more heat, so people are quick to blame companies for the reason these laptops are running hot and that may be fair in some cases, I'm sure there are definitely some. You know chassis out there that is garbage compared to others, but at the same time I recognize that there's only so much they can do in a confined space, and you know that's that's. Básicamente, it they're a lot of them are already trying to do all sorts of unique things, and you know that adds cost, especially with like research and development, to get all these weird techniques in to make them cooler yeah, I don't I don't. I don't think it's really going to change much and the fact that under vaulting is locked in a lot of 10th. Gen models is a bit sad. I like, with this GS 66 back here, por ejemplo, that you can at least the user, does still have the option to enable under vaulting, so by default, it's locked, but at least you can still turn it on. If you have to take those risks. De lo contrario, it would be good to see companies instead move to allowing that through the BIOS perhaps might be a little more dangerous giving user access to that. So instead, I think what the GS 66 does is a good option. Lets you just enable X to you through the BIOS, then you have that usual familiar software interface, so I think that would probably be, Eso espero, that's what we see more of that sort of thing.
I think company is already pushing what they can do in terms of improving the thermals inside I mean there are obviously more things they can do like say Isis with their 10th Gen they're starting to liquid metal, so others could get on board that bandwagon but yeah. I think we're coming to a point when there's, probably not that much, they can do without like an architecture, change that improves efficiency and even when we get such a change. I'M still pretty sure, like I said before, if this thermal had remove ailable they're going to take advantage of it to get max performance that's just the way it is. How do we know that the laptop has the max Q GPU variant in websites since most of them, don't mention it. That is a great question and I really hate it when companies and don't mention it, so they have gotten a little better at doing this. It varies widely by company but yeah. Básicamente, you really can't tell and it sucks it's it's crap. They should list if it's max Q or not otherwise the best way is try and look up a review of the product. Hopefully the reviewer has mentioned whether or not it's max here, ideally what power limit it runs up. So I mentioned that in all of my videos yeah, I think that's the best way to do it, try and find a good review for the product. Did you know that g14 screen has 40 millisecond delay? So I wanted to address this because a lot of people mentioned it ever since I did the g14 review, so I don't mention response times in my videos, because I don't have the tools available to test that and fact is while testing twenty games on the g14.
I thought it looked perfectly fine, you know obviously that's subjective, perhaps I'm, just my eyes, just not very sensitive to like very sting and that kind of thing. So I wasn't able to find that out until everyone, else's g14 reviews went. You know public. At the same time as mine, and I saw like nurple check and stuff – you know that response time and they showed that it was much higher than most other laptops. So that was how I found out about that. But obviously that meant I wasn't able to put it in my review, and it also pointed out to me you know the fact that I can't just looking at it isn't good enough, so I did actually recently spend 500 buying all of the hardware needed so that I can test screen response time, so I bought like an oscilloscope and a photo detector. So hopefully I can get that set up and I'll be able to do some proper gray.gray response time testing in future laptop reviews, 4900 HS or i 910 gen, which is best for video editing software's like Premiere Pro. So I wanted to answer this because basically the the landscape there is getting flipped on its head in a way. Por lo tanto, a few weeks ago, I would have answered this question saying that the Intel option is better because you get quick sync, I showed in my 4900 Verso del SA, 10. 8. 7. 5 H, video that the Intel chip does much better.
Do two quick sync, sin embargo, with premiere 14 point two, which is currently in beta, they add Nvidia and banks support, so you can use the invent encoder on the Nvidia graphics card. Now what that means is that basically quick sync, I I'm not sure if it gets used in addition to end of Inc, but either way from the benchmarks that I saw from Puget systems. The invent in Caradog gives you a big performance boost compared to using quick. Sincronizar, so once that new version of premieres up I'm not sure what it is, but it's in beta so probably not too far away, I don't think the CPU is going to make anywhere near as much of a difference as it used to. If both of these options have eight CPU cores and they both have nvidia graphics paired with them and can take advantage of n vank, i think either would be a very compelling option and they'll probably perform quite closely so it's. Definitely a space to watch it's, currently evolving. En el momento, your videos are the best Jared thanks. Is there any way to add VR performance on your laptop tests, so I do actually have a VR headset coming in soon so I'm doing a video on that, and hopefully I get to keep that so I can use it to do future. Vr testing I'm. Just waiting to get confirmation, whether all that be possible but that's, why I'm getting it in? I want to add VR testing to the laptop reviews.
So hopefully I can get that and I can get set up with VR and add those benchmarks in I'm working on it. Sí, wait and see. Does the newest soo stuff a 15 have free sync orgy sync, it says adaptive sync, but what does that mean? Other reviewers seem to mention it, but never go into detail as to what adaptive sync is. It also seems that only select models of the a 15 Apoyo, the adaptive sync thing, so adaptive sync is basically just unbranded free single j, Sincronizar, so same technology, I'm. Pretty sure every risin 4000 laptop should be able to offer free sync, I mean it would depend, but basically the way that works is you have the laptop screen and it's connected to the Vega GPU in the AMD processor, and then that might be connected to the Nvidia GPU or radeon GPU, if it has one but it's, that Vega eye GPU connected to the screen. That is able to do the free sync so that's, why you can have like say the a 15 with Nvidia graphics. But the screen can still do free sync because it can expire, the Vega graphics, so I don't think I've seen any rise in 4000 ordenadores portátiles, yet that don't offer free sync because that's just a really cool thing, they're able to do with the Vega a GPU. If there was an AMD laptop that I didn't use the Vega graphics and the screen was connected directly to Nvidia, I could see that as not having it, pero fuera de eso, I would expect them to do free sync, wherever possible, which is your personal laptop and Which one do you think you'll shift to in the future, so I don't think you can really see it, but just off camera here is my gigabyte error.
15X. So I use that for video editing. I want to see if I was going to change today. It'S hard to say, based on what I just mentioned about Premiere, changing QuickSync is going to be much less important within Vinc, so I could see myself getting an AMD based laptop. It would just depend if they, if any companies actually come out with an AMD based laptop. That has the things I need so good screen. Sd card reader big battery at the moment, there's not really like a AMD laptop for creators type of thing. So if I wanted something right now, I'd probably either be looking at the new or LED arrow 15, con un 8 núcleo de Intel, CPU or maybe electronics, Mag 15, because it really like that so I've got a similar feature set no LED screen there, que es desafortunado. But still overall good machine good features, see if I needed something today, probably those otherwise. Hopefully my error – 15x doesn't, you know let it last for a while longer and I can hold out and get a nice AMD, create a laptop it'd, be interesting to see if something like that exists with Intel disabling under volting, with their tenth general AMD. Finalmente, allow under bolting – so I talked about this in a previous QampA video, with Tim at Harper, unboxed AMD basically said under vaulting. You know it's possible. Someone just needs to make the software to do it and doesn't seem like they are willing to provide that.
Al mismo tiempo, a MIDI also said their chips. You know tuned very well in terms of the power curve, so you might not get as much performance out of being able to under bolt an AMD CPU compared to Intel that's, sólo una suposición, based on what AMD said, but yeah it's it's interesting that Intel having To lock that, así que, if someone comes around and does software for the AMD side and then suddenly AMD can do that and then the roles reversed well, it's it's, just it's it'll be interesting. Let'S put it that way. Given we have 300 Hertz displays now. Do you think it's feasible for you to stop measuring total input latency, maybe with a 1000 FPS camera or something similar, so that kind of is tied in to what I mentioned earlier with the response time testing so I'll definitely be getting response time testing in terms Of a thousand FPS camera like it's it's, not even close the amount of granularity the tools I've bought can test like they test in, like the nanosecond range and a thousand FPS is just like nowhere near that so that's good for testing the screen response time, but That wouldn't really be useful for me to test the total input. Latency so say from the moment. You click on the touchpad and something happens on the screen so I'm. Not sure how I would do something like that 1000 FPS camera might be OK to get a rough estimate, but yeah not sure how I'd be doing that for now.
Let'S, just wait till get up and running with the response, time testing and then from there I'll I'll see if I want to introduce total input latency as well. Bien, that's the end of the questions, or at least the ones I'm going to get through on this video. Por desgracia, there were over 200 questions and I've already been filming for an hour. I think I've addressed the top up voted once so. Espero, you guys found this video interesting. Let me know if you have further questions, leave them on the video and I'll do my best to answer them.